N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. I got this issue and luckily BMW covered it 100%. Checked the Camshaft Journal Caps. They also included a video from the technician. Direksiyon kilidi/Kontak alteri BMW paralar 47738. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. Bringing the BMW community together. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. Or anything else you have come across? Thats important to know for later. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. By any chance do you know how long will the dealerships receive this extended warranty info after the case settles? Please help! Had mechanic put on Autel code reader diagnostics and got 10 or so codes relating to things such as the dinamic stability control, fuel pump. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. Ask an Expert Car Questions BMW Questions 3,220 Satisfied Customers Roger is online now Related BMW Questions Have an issue after replacing valve cover gasket the car has Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. Refer to KSD2 for the corresponding flat rate unit (FRU) allowance. They are similar to those that are used in BMW N55. I appreciate your help. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership : BmwTech 2 Posted by 2 years ago F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership Hey guys, I have a 2014 F30 with the N20 motor and the only mods are the dinan stage 3 tune and a dinan fmic. should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery 131401 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable I have a N20 Engine/ 328i April 2013 / F30, the dash states drivetrain malfunction and the check engine light went on. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. Hi Andreas, This question has appeared in your blog before. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. Next day scanned and found codes 120208 (charging pressure control, plausibility pressure too high) and 120408 (charging pressure control, deactivation: pressure build-up blocked. This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. I say bad engineering or a BMW scam? The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must SB-10053485-8362 Page 1 of 4 with the following integration levels: Cheers, Also, I had the whole transmission replaced at 42K miles when I bought it. as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . Today my engine shut off while I was driving. Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. reference point is the same? I hate to take it to the junk yard. The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. So I thing exhaust vanos is not working, or not working correctlycan I get in touch with you? Click on the The boost control fault is caused by the vanos fault,,,you need to check into the the vanos faults to see whats going on. One customer describe his 2013 BMW F18 525Li with 61000km mileage got trouble.The car engine warning light on and central display "Transmission malfunction".But it can start engine and accelerate normally.More repair cases about BMW,please check here:BMW Trouble Repair Use BMW ISID to diagnose,got trouble code as below: Fault Code: 135401 Fault Explanation: Valvetronic: overloaded Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. Thanks Regards, After you time the engine you should only turn it over by hand one time and the blocks should lock down,,,,if you turn it over a few times it will never align again that is normal.,,,my question is does the the engine run and are there any faults. 1c0102 December 2013 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. The oil was black though. In sports mode, or when driving more active in doesn't come on. The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. Just realized the cut off is February 2015, not 2014. hi, My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. Could you please guide me? Hello there, loving your info. Engine also has forged crankshaft with 4 counterweights that is installed with shift. I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. 130104 Any help would be appreciated Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue C. If a control module was working properly and/or had no related faults stored prior to vehicle Warranty. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. What should I do next? Hello, Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? E84 Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? test drove car, get a few codes. 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML But thats not what happened. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? It also features dual VANOS, valvetronic, and direct injection. 2D61 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached The ticking noise is normal on all N20 engine during cold start and then it get quieter when it warms up,,,what Im more worried about if the car has a whining noise and also trying to get the timing chain and rails replaced under BMW extended warranty. Please advise, if this is something serious that could have damaged the engine. Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Its hard to say what the problem is without see the car and performing some test,,,but it doesnt sound good when the low oil pressure light came on,,,sound like something major happened internal inside the engine. My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. Not a good sign, had the same thing happen on 2013 X3. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Changed the oil filter and OIL. This turbocharged 2.0L inline-four was considered a replacement to the BMW N52 a naturally-aspirated, inline-six engine. 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. Hi. Do I have to buy the extended warranty to get the timing chain replaced by BMW or the 7/70 warranty is for all bmw? Page 4 of 4 Is there a or way trick to clear the code without seeing a mechanic or using a code reader?ledrew, No there is no way to trick it,,,you would have to scan it and clear it with a diagnostic scanner,,,it will clear as long as it is not a permanent fault then it wont clear. P0115; BMW 10AA40 Coolant-temperature sensor, electrical: no signal P112A; BMW 10AA50 Coolant-temperature sensor, plausibility: engine temperature in rel. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle My mechanic said he had already replaced the Vanos sol valves and still getting the same codes. 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. Thanks again. 112,000 km / 7 years. thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. I am also concerned , like every other n20 owner, that it will grenade eventually. I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. Seems like the locking pins are stuck. Ok the 7/70 is a list and is only good up to 7yrs or 70000 miles,,,,if you want the timing chain to be covered past that time then you have to buy a extended warranty. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main I want to make sure this issue is fixed. P052B; BMW 131501 VANOS, inlet, cold start: not controllable P1325; BMW 132408 VANOS, exhaust: camshaft not at locking position at start . Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? I ended up scanning and getting below codes. I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? Im going to trade. I have the alignment tool to lock the crankshaft, camshafts and impulse sending wheel. 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This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Code 130308 VANOS Exhaust Control fault position reached Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. My 320i with N20 engine have problem with light accelerator or cruise on hightway, about 1.100-1450 rpm.Engine noise u u u like weve a drone around and with little vibration on steering. Perform a vehicle test. Yes it does not say no signal. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Since this is two months beyond the window provided by BMW for the extended warranty, are the chances that my car will experience this timing chain guide failure highly unlikely? There has to be a reason. she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Just to be clear, there are two different parts of the VANOS solenoids on the N20. Now getting error 131501. Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. Here is a video of whats happening today. Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. Your email address will not be published. Timing is performed by the timing chain. Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. Or do you think its just possible plastic bits of junk in the sump pump pick up? Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. Same. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. I fear that your 2012 X1 is now past the 7 year warranty limit. 2D57 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. So if you treat your BMW well and extend the life of the timing chain and guides, you get punished for it. How does this help the car in what way? Id rather not pay more money. Hello! Now how I understand it is this is not a timing issue. This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. It all depends are your production date of your car,,,you can also tell the dealer about this bulletin. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. Your email address will not be published. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? Problem is, mine arent locked. Wont restart. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. Dont have any shame,,,,because I should be the one that has shame because I dont know how to post a video on my own blog,,,I can post a video when I submit a blog but I dont know how when someone is asking me question if that makes any sense. What symptoms and codes might you get if your timing chain had failed? The short version of this story is that the car is working now. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. Ok Ill do that. Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard due to a low oil pressure and chain noise.now iam having inlet and outlet vanos dtc . The improved DME software was introduced F34 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. 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