Eighth gradersAbby and Libbywent missing while hiking through the woods near Indiana'shistoric Monon High Bridgeon February 13, 2017. It is from this deciphering that LE concluded that the conversation above took place. No clue what this is talking about. Did he have family dysfunction? In case yiou think its weird to go to such forums, half the people in the forum were hebephiles and another half were hebephile haters threatening to kill the hebephiles and have them arrested. So I consider it proven now that BG disrobed both girls below the waist and then spread their legs wide in a sexual tableau imitating PIV sex. Its a BS law, often used by the FBI and other feds when they want to take someone down but they cant get anything on you. Ill be the first to admit to more than a morbid curiosity with what most would consider disturbing. let gads_event; That to me is simply astonishing that he went through with it after making small talk with a witness. She didnt know that Abby had a boyfriend, and she sure did. In the above photo, Libbys right and left legs are marked. WebCHILLING footage of a man linked to the Delphi killings appears to show chilling similarities to a Snapchat picture posted by one of the victims. Terrible, huh? What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. . },false) I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. I wouldnt say he wants to be caught but he definitely gets his jollies by taking his chances. gads_event = event; For a long time, LE thought his man did the Evansdale murders. Apparently that comment means I confessed to being a pedophile. One reason I quit doing these Delphi articles is because I got tired of dealing with idiots like this all the time. The other theory of course is that these are simply college aged men who drunk to severe intoxication before deciding to go for a fatal midnight swims. The document(s) are from either LE or the judicial system or both at the same time. After he found the girls, Mr. X said called his wife and ran from the scene. Profiler John Kelly, who believes that Leaker should be at least given the benefit of the doubt until proven false, thanked Harvey Carroll, another good (albeit narcissistic) Delphi Murders podcaster, for his work on the BG photo in which Carroll found that BG is apparently wearing a Go-Pro camera. There would be no way to know whether the keys were there because he killed the girls or because he was helping in the search efforts. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. He figured out that she wasnt dead. First, I dont happen to fantasize about this stuff. The Patty family said they still want to help investigators as much as they can since this investigation is still ongoing. I say this because similar posing and objects were reported with the Evansdale Murders, who LE now suspects BG of committing. People look too much into things seeking creepy connections to break the case so to speak. See in the comments below though where a commenter casts doubt on the notion of any .40 gun being a collectors edition. Very surprised L.E. WebHow far has the Delphi Murder case progressed? Thank you for clarifying. Courtesy Becky Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. This article contains remarks made on the internet by individual people and organizations. However, he seemed to indicate that in this small of a community itd be hard to imagine otherwise. If he shot a gun that day around 3pm, other trail-goers would have reported hearing it. Youd think hed want to be as far away from the woods as possible. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Its known as a partial DNA sample. eventAction: 'click_adunit' Second photo is of what he thinks is a pink sock (if the photo is actually real). They will search through your life with a fine toothcomb, and if you do that with most people, you will find some idiot law someone broke somewhere somehow. Specifically, his sources concurred that there was at least some luring of the girls to the site. Ive only ever had to have my car toed once or twice in my life and it was because of malfunction. When discussing this man in the comments, always refer to him as Mr. X. While he was raping and killing the 15 year old girl, the 12 year old girl escaped. I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. I was reading forum back and forths on the whole Mr. X truck towing debacle. Theyre crawling all over the page. Pretty much nobody. We regard that as unverified with substantial likelihood of being true. LE: We believe we have something of yours. Remember that? He says hes going to call his wife and shes going to bring him a spare set. I'm so sorry for this grief you have to carry." Ive used a few of them, but I can barely do anything, maybe crop or rotate a photo and thats it. One is named the Lewiston Killer. It looks like he posed the mannequin under the sheet. So Mr. Xs alibi is dead. Theres no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. Im glad you mentioned the struggle. I have no idea what the cryptic references to The Shack movie were all about. However, backing that up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. Trashing Leigh Kerr, Part 1. The thing is that these men are also strongly attracted to adult women. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); I get tired of all this endless talk of DNA. Social media users following the case online spoke out against the alleged photos on a Facebook group dedicated to the murders. Another haunting photo was posted by his wife on Facebook which shows the Indiana man smiling excitedly in front of what appears to be a police sketch of the murder suspect. But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice. Most of my disturbing artist friends are actually the gentlest souls Ive ever met. Theres a lot more freedom in there to name names, addresses, phone numbers, really sleuth people out the way we cant do in here. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims. Face it, this is as bad as it gets watching your bestie murdered while you watch. eventAction: 'view' But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case. While the entire area where Abby and Libby were dropped off is important; the crime scene was given priority just like finding witnesses. Let law enforcement run that information and make that determination," he said during a news conference. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libbys legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log! PS: I didn't see the photo myself, but I was following Abby & Libby's story from the day they went missing and I remember that people were shocked at his poor judgement. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), And then Gannon Staunch, who was most likely murdered by his stepmother, then buried here in Colorado Springs, and later dug up and dumped along a bridge construction site in Florida. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes. Most sexual murders of children are committed by misophiles. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they dont have enough on him to make a case. Because if he had, he would note that Leaker said that this account was only deciphered after long painstaking work with audio experts who managed to clean up the completed garbled audio on Libbys phone. Thats a fact. I think the larger photograph is of a doll and is just included for morbid effect. He had to dispatch them quickly so they wouldnt scream. Well, guess what? I wonder if the photographer was J Kyle Keener? Its a heinous crime and Im thankful to God Mr. X is in custody. I just know that theres another job and another hill for us to climb ahead of us but we are up for the challenge, Mike said. I recent talked to a woman who was part of the search team. I concur. Why was he not seen? These killers almost never commit sex murders of little girls. Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logans property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? they look legitimate but the shoe looks oddly clean and pristine for something in a creek? Delphi eighth-graders Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017 while walking on a local hiking trail. WebHe is the photographer who took the crime scene photos of the Delphi murders for the Pharos Tribune. If this crime scene is anything like what this woman describes it as, then this is shaping up to be one of the weirdest, most insane double homicides of the 21st Century. If he was parked at the cemetery why did he walk back threw the trails with the chance of someone seeing him..doesnt make any sense to me. In case you are wondering, there are cases like this all over the country. These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. The Valentines animals hold messages in their hands that say, I love you, etc. Yes, he was parked at the CPS building (its Crop Protection Service) before the killings and then cemetery after the killings to stage the scene, correct! Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? If BG was parked at the cemetery why did he walked back threw the trailsafter killing the girls , so either FSG is lying about seeing BG AFTER the killing of the two girls or he seen BG before the killings..makes sense right ? Good times. If these female minors are over the AOC, help yourself. You KNOW youre right. DAs wont dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Its been said that I made up this rumor as some sick fantasy of mine. Youre heard the rumor of the gigantic stuffed animal left at the scene? The sexual thrill here was the homicide itself. Man. The hebephilic attraction is an antisocial attraction. I dont have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that theres a 1 in 10 chance its him. A former girlfriend got shot in the head by her husband. Yes, it shows up there at 6:30 PM, but perhaps it had been parked there earlier without being seen. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. The studies are clear on this. What makes you think that picture of a football player references Mr. X? DELPHI MURDERS CRIME SCENE PHOTOS!!! While it is unclear when the photo was taken, Allen's wife posted the image just a year after the teen friends were found dead on an Indiana hiking trail, sparking a five-year-long mystery over their murder. Pictures of clothing in the river. Richard Allen was The animal appears to be holding something in its hand. Its also quite violating considering the ages of these girls and what was done to them. Theyre in his pocket the whole time. Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. Richard Allen was arrested in October for the 2017 deaths of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, but details about the case have remained sealed. I in no way think their release does any harm to the case or disrespect to the girls. Since the murders, he has gained ~50 pounds. First of all, as noted above, Leaker seems vindicated in part about Mr. X being the prime suspect in the case. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. She never shows up. Wait. Otherwise the case never goes to trial. And he needed to be the one who found the girls to explain away any of his DNA at the crime scene. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. I thought it was KK? I am keeping the number, nature, and provenance of the document(s) deliberately vague as I am trying to protect the source who mailed them to me as photocopies. Apparently he was close to Sheriff Lozenby at one point. For instance, Bundy killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. I dont believe he brought any of this stuff (other than the bleach bottle that can be seen in his left pant leg) to the crime scene when he abducted those girls. I regard him as credible for various reasons. Man, this guy is absolutely brazen. I said that being a pedophile isnt against the law. Its probably #5 or 6 in popularity in the last two decades. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat. Sigh. Hebephilia is a problem when men have little to no attraction to mature females so the only way to satisfy their sexual urges is to have sex with a 12-15 year old girl. We are all just kind of feeling our way and figuring out what our purpose is now, Becky said. She lived for five seconds after he started cutting her, so it must have been over awful quick. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just a guess. He says that this is about awareness about infant mortality but its really morbid. I reported his post to FB as I find it very objectionable. I stopped at age 21 because I didnt want to go to jail. I work with a lot of females. It sounds like a good way to stay out of prison. They did this to make Mr. X think they had abandoned him and were looking at a false suspect. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life. Mr. Xs car got blocked in by police vehicles who arrived at the crime scene. Oh why is there a gag order on the details of the truck at CPS? While little is known about Allen, The U.S. Sun can reveal that he is an employee of a CVS near Delphi, according to a source who requested to be anonymous. I think that is incorrect. The female searcher at the crime scene who reported the white sheet with the smiley face on it decribed it to me as a white sheet, not a white scarf, so I think we are looking at two different items. Obviously he put that stuff there before the crime or afterwards, but people claim the crime scene was searched in the early evening of the 13th and neither the girls or the items were there, so that looks like the girls were taken away (to a shack?) Kelsi shared a series of images from that location on Monday, February 13. "The people who worked with him had no clue and were just as surprised as everyone else," the source said. Leave this man alone if you know who he is. I think its in a landfill. It could be very interesting to hear from anyone who was familiar with Mr. X in his childhood; what was he like? The article looked into the possibility that the Delphi Killer was responsible for the Evansdale Murders too. . This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. I spent a bit of time on their forums studying them. There are some locals who are going out of their way to protect Mr. X. See, you cant. It was closed. The article implied that he was a prime suspect. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of Reddit said this could not be true because if it was, LE would have released it to the public. On the question of whether LE found a set of lost keys belonging to Mr. X, imo it was likely something else LE had in their possession. pg.acq.push(function() { I'm sure there's a reason you feel as you do, just don't take it out on me, I'm entitled to my opinion snowflake. Ive also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. Libbys grandmother Becky Patty said Allen was the one who printed off pictures that were used at the girls funeral. Libbys hand was positioned to make her appear to be holding the knife that stabbed her in the shoulder. Maybe this was why he was the one who found the bodies during the search on day 2because he knew his keys were there and needed to retrieve them before police found them first. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. To me those two reactions seem pretty excessive, but that doesnt prove anything. There is a charge from Reddit that we faked this image. This is more important than you think because age attractions of sex killers are an important part of forensics and especially profiling. Scotts only purpose is to be to pretend he was Leaker in order to draw suspicion away from the prime suspect, Mr. X, for unknown reasons. I drew this conclusion believing that a set of car keys found in that area near the crime scene, with knowledge that Mr. X claimed to have lost his, would have given LE probable cause for a search warrant to determine if the keys were in fact his, plus to search his vehicle for any possible evidence linking Mr. X to the murders. I dont know what to say, so Ill just say (again) that Im so very sorry and I know this anniversary never gets easier. Theyre scared so they keep quiet. She wasnt the sort of person to make things up more like the opposite. Theres no confirmation that BG was smoking a cigarette when he abducted those girls. Becky Patty, who is a friend of Mr. Xs wife, said that Mrs. X told her that Mr. X did not lose his keys. I do think that he is a good POI. Over time that shifts into case management but not initially beyond case preservation, collection, and testing including witnesses and other forms of documentation like photographs, mapping, any searches, etc. One image showed a glimpse of a river that was slightly lightened by the sun, while another showed a trail bridge that looked old and brittle with the surrounding trees entirely shed. I believe that these are homicides. We have to be fair here. not sure if those are the photos you're referring to. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. So the girls may have been killed and the crime scene may have been staged later on. Thats terrible. The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. This shows they had a gun cartridge from the scene and it also shows that a shack may well have played a part in this crime. When I first heard that there were eyewitnesses, I had assumed he had encountered them after the murders had taken place in the timeline. Likewise with the report of the white truck at the CPS building. A pedophile is a man who is maximally attracted to girls under 13 and has little to no interest in mature females. KK didnt snitch on Mr. X. Mr. X was present at the 2019 press conference, sitting in the exact center of the room. When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. Among the many insane arguments against me, one is that I pretend to be a journalist. Im actually trained as a journalist. Do you think his behavior has anything to do with Libby and Abby? That might put me off right there.As I get older, I appreciate the wonders of older women more and more. Women are lousy at logic as any man whos had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end. All these guys have a background. at the scene ahead of time without getting caught. A flash of certainty. Imo, the grounds look identical to that in this photo: https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pharostribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/50/c50338d2-f314-11e6-aa61-b38082113dd8/58a39f292ad2c.image.jpg?resize=333%2C500. His word is good and his morals are strong. After talking to his LE colleagues for a while, he got back to us. Kelsi German, sister of Libby, posted photos of their walks in memory of her on her social media. I dont know the gentleman personally at all so Ive probably seen him, Mike Patty, Libbys grandpa, said. hitType: 'event', Perhaps ~3% of men are primary hebephiles. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. Patty said Allen did not charge the families for the photos. hitType: 'event', Prior to that he had been bouncing around small towns in Indiana. We did a lot of sleuthing on Mr. X and learned that he was homeless for a time in the 2000s when he was living in a shelter. Its possible he found his keys somewhere in the woods, probably near the crime scene, during those 18 hours. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called interfering with an investigation. There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. The lower half of his face was disguised with a white scarf. Problem is we dont know the nature of the sex crime. Law enforcement is not focused on building a case at the time but stopping another incident. This has been subsequently appended by two new rumors that there was a bullet cartridge found at the site and that LE is looking for an odd gun, a collectors edition .40 or 10mm, that was used in the crime. We also have a paid sleuthing group if you are interested in joining. Many adults feel that men who have sex with teenage girls are bad, evil, depraved, immoral, etc. Anyway, pure pedophilia is an age orientation whereby men are maximally attracted to girls under 13 and have little to no attraction to mature females. I think FSG saw BG. Someone, possibly a friend, Mr. Z, was certain that they saw him elsewhere when the murders were committed. He told someone close to him and they reported it on the Net. Hes pure integrity, a class act. }); I dont think he moved the girls, but if so, my guess would be the CPS building, which I do not believe was ever searched & conveniently has been since demolished, so any evidence would be history. Yes, BG definitely videotaped his crime. I have obtained a videotape of him playing with his granddaughters. Who the hell is he marketing to? Theyre disturbing. And isnt a hike back to the cemetery where if its MrX his truck was parked. 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