The hearing began with testimony by Dr. James Grigson, a psychiatrist who regularly testifies for the state in such hearings. Lucinda told Anna she wanted some turpentine to put in her mothers lemonade at the party. Rudee said Lile kept talking about how he wished the tree had fallen on him instead, or that he could have done more to try and save Spencer. No, sir. No . He had one of the biggest hearts of anyone Ive ever met.. He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. I told him I didnt think it was a mistake. The methods were transformative, I use them to this day. Sharon had been stabbed to death; Bobby had been shot with a .38. She works part of the day in the prison store and goes to school the rest of the time. Rudee had actually been trying to get a hold of Lile for three days before one of his cousins called her back and broke the news. Finally, what had she said to Anna on the phone that night? Was it within two weeks, three weeks? He hoped the jury understood that, because it directly conflicted with Bobby Stouts story; on the other hand, he hoped they didnt notice it also conflicted with Lucindas story. David tried to talk to Lucinda, hoping she would tell him what had happened. On June 9, she told Anna that things had fallen through and she was going to have to wait to kill them. Woman killed in Louisville after being struck by tree limb during windstorm. April 18, 2018. Lucindas probation officer testified that Lucinda had been cheerful, helpful, and hard-working during her stay at the juvenile detention center. Before he went back to work for the county, Lile had one more job. Share This Story. Lancaster asked Stout if hed ever had any extramarital affairs. I have a life-long interest in nature conservation, as well as a strong public service background. She had about $31,000. Yes. Lancaster recalled Mary Bolch. I dont know what I thought. I got to hold her hand when they took her off of life support, but it wasnt the same, Rudee said. The last person that was truly with her was Lucas, telling her she was going to be OK, and she probably really needed that at that moment. Each story had a stabbing, a shooting, and a phone call. I saw him and jumped on him and hugged him, Puzo said. What Clay doesn't realize, however, is that Lucinda isn't nearly as nice as she looks and he soon gets more trouble than he could ever hope to realize. The girl writes letters to her friends, to her aunt and uncle, and, of course, to her brother. Did you ask her if she understood that she didnt have to say anything to you? It was just kind of strange for her. But he knows that everyone with the name of Stout is paying a price for whatever happened in June 1977. By coincidence, Liles service and Spencers wound up being on the same day. The actual Lucinda is Susan Grund. She said that she had to kill her mother because she was going to kill her father, and her mother couldnt live without her father because her mother loved her father and her father loved her mother. I feel like we need to honor him always, and we will continue to do so, she said. Thats what Lucinda would say she did. Why did you shoot him? Lancaster would try to protect her rights, but at this point much depended on what Luandas father did. This movie is a true movie and not a bad one at that. On the evening of June 10, Anna said, Lucinda and her father had come to the store about 10 oclock to pick up some meat. You put two bullets in his back. (62kg) Hair Colour He says it took him a long time to accept it all the feuding, the recriminations. I wanted him to know that she knew how much he cared, and that he really was an incredible person in her life, and he played a bigger role than I think he knew.. Because of her age, and the severity of the sentence, the appeal process captured almost as much attention as the trial. He was convicted in the 1987 deadly robbery of Jeffrey Young . Were you getting up or were you lying down? This objection was based, in part, on a landmark decision by Dallas Federal District Judge Robert Porter last year. I spent time on the phone talking to his mom afterward, getting to share all of the experiences I had with him. He believes his wife's death could have been a case of mistaken identity. Steve Amis had been trying to find her for a week. Once again, Anna said, Lucinda mentioned killing her parents. Well, how? He was lying on his right side, struggling to free himself, when Lucinda shot him again. A "very cute" scooter was drawn on the bag she received her food in. In early 1979, the murder conviction of Lucinda Stout was presented to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. Bobby never expressed any sorrow over Sharons death to her, and never talked about Lucinda. Sarah Spencer (married name Lady Sarah McCorquodale) is Diana's older sister, and she was born in 1955. Big Ms tend to reflect the current prosecutorial emphasis of District Attorney Henry Wades office. Yes, sir, I certainly would. If youd wanted to kill your father could you have shot him again? Lucinda said he told her to take the keys to the car, get some money and go hide. He repeated Sharons name, but that was the only time I ever saw him. In those weeks Rudee got to know the man who was beside her friend in her last moments, and the two became friends in their own right. Well take a break, Mead said, and then well argue starting at about 6:30. Suddenly David Lancaster was tired, very tired. On the date of the certification hearing did you tell your son, Robert Stout, If they dont certify Lucinda theyll get me? We are heartbroken at your much-too-soon passing, and will be forever grateful for how you touched the life of our sister.. He felt so bad because he couldnt save her. Anne Dudek is an American actress. And so Lile helped Spencer move her things, and the two quickly bonded. Burnham called Dr. James Grigson to the stand. While she was in that horrible condition, he picked her up and held her in his arms, and I dont think many people would have done that. ,She deserves to pay for what shes done. After he [Bobby] got in the hospital, did you ever go down there and open up his business and try and run it? She is also the only female juvenile in the history of the state to be indicted for murder. When Alexanders turn came to cross-examine, he found that for one of the few times in his career, he was genuinely angry with a witness. Grund, 53, is serving 60 years in the death of her husband, former Miami County Prosecutor James Grund. Letters: Proposed age limit for gun ownership in Colorado doesn't make sense, Skygazers will have a great view Wednesday of two planets that look like they are almost touching, Multiple Colorado schools temporarily placed under secure status due to threats, Woman shot near CU Boulder overnight, suspect is at large, In 4 years, Lori Lightfoot went from breakout political star to divisive mayor of a Chicago beset by pandemic and crime, Florida lawmakers to consider expansion of so-called dont say gay law, Drone crashes at Disneyland after hovering over visitors heads See video, Rapper Travis Scott wanted for assaulting Manhattan club sound engineer, destroying $12K in equipment, Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information. When Lucinda Seattle Spencer was born on 29 June 1884, in Seattle, King, Washington, United States, her father, Byron White Spencer, was 59 and her mother, Elizabeth Amelia Fairchild, was 41. And what a waste of talented actors such as Nick Mancuso and Mike Farrell. Numerous trees have been uprooted, many people are without power, and roads have been closed due to vehicles being blown over. Boulder County employee dies following fall at Heil Valley Ranch. May 10, 2018. This was all the excuse a judge needed to order Luanda Stout tried as an adult. Its shocking what happened.. It was completely like a fluke accident," said Dan Spencer, Lucinda's brother. The broadcast journalist went. Youre definitely positive? Do you know whether your wife did? Lucinda and her sister, Florinda bullied Cinderella from a young age, she, her sister, and the Wicked Stepmother all attend a ball, and Cinderella's main goal is to go as well. He had dropped out of school in the ninth grade and worked at various mechanics jobs. What Clay doesn't realize, however, is that Lucinda isn't nearly as nice as she looks and he soon gets more trouble than he could ever hope to realize. Her parents came home about 8. Nearly three decades later, JeromeStrange hopes the next call he receives will be the one he's been waiting for one where investigators tell him an arrest has been made in the case. To kill them, Anna said. Lucinda testified that she had stayed overnight at Anna Villasanas the Tuesday before the murder. No. Told him I wasnt on anyones side. No, sir, my . Burn-ham was a wily, experienced trial lawyer with boyish good looks, a ready grin, and an aw shucks manner. Of course, no one ever claimed she was much of an actress. Just to be together again and remember Lucas, she said. Knowing that he was getting nowhere, Alexander decided to remind the judge of the defenses opinion of Anna Villasanas testimony. Liles was just beginning. We went through the entire house in three weeks. Had you ever talked to Anna about killing your mother or father? Lancaster asked. BARDSTOWN, Ky. (WDRB) Thirty years after a mother was murdered, her husband is speaking out about her violent death. Louisville saw wind gusts of 89 miles per hour during Tuesdays storm the highest seen in the metro area and northern Colorado on Tuesday. Assistant District Attorney Hal Gaither found the Stout case a challenge to the imagination: Daughter stabs mother, shoots father. They divorced in 1978 and Lucinda married someone with the surname Johnson. We talked about it while we worked. They came home about 11 p.m. and began carving the meat. As a long-time defense attorney, David Lancaster knew a thing or two about Grigson. "You want them locked up, but it's not a revenge factor," he said. The best result we found for your search is Lucinda Jean Spencer age 70s in Rincon, GA. Stout admitted that he had taken her out within the past year. Lancaster moved on. Genealogy of. He knows the chances of that happening, however, fade each day. Lucindas second version of the events could not be introduced in testimony to dispute Stouts version, so the best Alexander could do in cross-examination was hint at motives Stout might have had for killing his wife and placing the blame on his daughter. Robert Stout came to the stand with the confidence of a man who had something to say. He wanted to help his sister, but he didnt want to turn on his father. No. She said that the law wouldnt do anything to her. One of them would add that she was an incurable sociopath, likely to commit further violent acts. Alexander had a suspicion he wanted to test out She told me that she was going to kill them that night and that she had taken them out to dinner. David Lancaster could see that Lucinda, who until now had been cool, almost icy, was breaking under Burnhams relentless questioning. Shed . Lucinda Spencer is a Nurse Practitioner in Vandalia, IL. Yes. Neither report mentioned the other, because there appeared to be no reason to link them at the time. Here is a summary of the highest gusts. When they found Lucinda standing over her father in the neighbors living room, Kleinmeir said Lucinda said Im crazy. One of his hands remains in a curled position due to his mental retardation and after-effects of his medication to curb is seizures. Once a Big M hits the newsstands it keeps getting hotter: The headlines fuel the DAs office; the DAs office, in turn, fans the flames by slipping items to the press. I felt like I had to be strong and tell him you have to move on.. It was just completely shocking, Rudee said. A couple of days later, she continued, Lucinda told her over the phone that she had to kill them, that she couldnt run away. He didnt discuss anything. And what did Lucinda say later that night when she called? She was taken to Good Samaritan Medical Center, where she died on Wednesday, the coroner said. Mary wrote: "Diana had a happy secure childhood. Leaders in Whitefish [Montana] say Mr. Spencer, who once ran his National Policy Institute from his mother's $3 million summer house here, is now an outcast in this resort town in the Rocky . Then Thursday was the day it happened.. All right, gentlemen, said Judge Mead evenly. Lile was a big, imposing man who earned the nickname Superman from his coworkers while he was working trails in Boulder County. Well, I cried mostly.. How many times did she tell you she was going to kill her parents? Susan is now in a house she needs to stay in PRISON !!!!!! Their feelings about Susan have never mellowed and they visit the grave of their murdered son each weekend. Gail Lile said one weekend, her son broke. He then drives her to her sister's house nearby and then heads to a nearby nightclub where some friends are waiting for him. I think he was home all of the time. Lancaster mentally checked off point one: Some courts have held that juveniles in custody must have more explicit warnings of their legal rights. Psychiatric testimony was always tough: Jurors, confused by the facts and the evidence, often found psychiatric testimony like Grigsons all the reason they needed to make a black-and-white decision. He was just a very dedicated man.. The latter part of her name refers to the fairy tale, while the name. Davids brother Bobby had been almost fatally wounded, and was in surgery to remove two .38 slugs. A few weeks after the move, Spencer rehired Lile to help her sort through some things because she had more than she could fit in the new place. Anthony Karl, Sharon Stouts brother, took the stand and testified that Bobby Stout had once told him hed had an affair with her [Angela] off and on, that hed gotten caught because Angela had called Sharon and admitted it and said that she wasnt going to see him anymore because she wouldnt want it to happen to her. That would be all Lancaster would get in before the jury. I got to hold her hand when they took her off of life support, but it wasnt the same, Rudee said. As for what it has been like getting around at work, Lara has relied on her scooter to travel from place to place on set. Brings new meaning to the phrase Sunday Funday. Gaithers job was to get Lucinda Stout certified as an adult. Anna recounted several conversations she had had with Lucinda the week before the murder. It had been taken in the presence of more than one officer and after the usual warnings that statements made under the circumstances could be used against Lucinda Stout in court. Likewise, her beauty definitely added to the overall scenery as well. He only knew her six weeks, Rudee said. She told Arthur that she was attending a charity ball, only to hide under Mavis' bed until Mavis retired for the evening. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The appeal of Lucinda Stout was turned down only two months later. My mother never said anything so as far as I knew she was dead. She wanted me to come home with her because she didnt want to do it by herself. She showed off a sweet gesture by her husband, Rick McVey, after he went out to get her breakfast on January 14. Except for her brief outburst, she had been a calm, deliberate, almost dispassionate witness. What made you talk to those police officers? Why did you call Anna Villasana? No, sir. I was. Well, this is like having a broken leg with two ends of the bone sticking out. In 2002, Lucinda Marker and her husband, John Tull, came down with the Bubonic Plaguethe same bacterial infection that killed about one-third of Europe's population in the Middle Ages. Before he met Patsy, John Ramsey had married his college sweetheart, an elementary education major named Lucinda Pasch, in 1966. Did you and your wife ever discuss a girl named Angela Creed? Lancaster asked once the jury had left the room. Keep scrolling for more details on her injury and condition. Her five siblings flew to Colorado Wednesday to remember her and while finding support in each other, they said they also found it in the Boulder community. You really hated your dad, didnt you? While she was in that horrible condition, he picked her up and held her in his arms, and I dont think many people would have done that. Gail Lile remembers her son coming home the night Spencer was hospitalized. Gaithers objection was overruled. But he knew what he had to do. Spencer was able to sneak her uninvited into a black-tie party, where Lucinda won the heart of Arthur Jarvis, who had been occupied with her stepsisters minutes before, further fueling jealousy. Winds will begin to subside this evening. I dont understand. Police found the couples daughter, Lucinda, standing over her wounded father in the living room of a neighbors house. But on that day, high winds had been ravaging the county, as they had been for a week. But you werent worried about calling the police and getting them over there and getting your dad arrested so they could take him to jail for killing your mother? 1 want you to believe the truth, yes, Anna said meekly. When? She never came back. When Mr. Stout came to his wifes aid, Lucinda ran to the living room, got a pistol shed planted there, returned to the kitchen and shot her father twice. Just for reflex? No one knew where she was. She had confessed to the crimes. Stout, how much insurance was on your wifes life at the time she died? the Davis Family. Although KSP said the case has been cold for years, investigators would still like to speak with anymore who has information about what happened March 25, 1990, in Bardstown, Kentucky. Paige Lucinda Spencer, 41, of Walker Street in Concord, was arrested at 11:40 p.m. on Aug. 10, on a simple assault charge. Thats the only time? Did you know anything about the juvenile legal system at that time? Yes. I dont know what is true and what I have dreamed? Obviously, father and son had had a heart-to-heart talk about his upcoming testimony. The shocking notion that a teen-age girl might have stabbed her mother to death and shot her father consumed the headlines. She stabbed her mother once in the back, but Mrs. Stout managed to pull out the knife and stumble to the back door. and he had the knife and I had the gun and we just kind of stood there for a minute and then my mom came in the back door and he turned around and 1 saw her and she was real panic-stricken and everything and so I shot him twice. She had a good heart. Because my dad wasnt there when she got there. They would not present a case that Lucinda Stout didnt commit the crimes of July 10, or that Bobby Stout did. He loved Lucinda, but supposed anything was possible, and if an apparently normal 16-year-old girl did all that, she obviously needed help. His prognosis for her was good. The DAs office felt it had the goods on Lucinda Stout, but it wasnt sure how a jury would respond to the relentless prosecution of a 16-year-old girl. Before he went back to work for the county, Lile had one more job. In May of 2021 after missing a scheduled appearance at Mile 0 Fest in Key West, Florida, Lucinda revealed she suffered a stroke on November 17th, 2020. Claire then enjoyed a romance with Stewpot, before discovering he was seeing Annette Firman behind her back! Miss America, a Strip Club, International Travel, a Gangster Ex-Cop, Possible Lost Bodies, a Shoddy Medical Examiners office, the Japanese Mob, and an FBI . Lancaster questioned the officers, zeroing in on the question of whether Lucinda actually understood what her rights were. In the police car, she confessed. Bobby said he was upset with his brother David because he wanted to hire the highest-priced lawyer in town for Lucinda and him pay the bill. Mrs. Karl was sure she had noticed a swelling on the lower right of Sharons face when she saw the body that night. Why did you run away? The husband is found shot with a bullet in his head, but since there is no murder weapon to be found, there is no case. Puzo oversaw its installation last fall in memory of her friend. The confession, though it was oral and unsigned and taken under stress, was compelling. But in a high publicity case like this, he probably wouldnt be giving the defense any breaks. Today, I graduated with my true calling ahead of me." 2021 She had never met Lile, but she wanted to meet the man she had heard about from Spencer, the man who was there in her friends last moments of consciousness. David tried to talk to Lucinda, hoping she would tell him what had. Was it possible that the blood on her shoes, which was unavoidable under the circumstances, rubbed off on her other clothing? A memorial stone with a plaque honoring Lile sits just to the side of an still unfinished and unnamed trail on Heil Valley Ranch open space, not far from where he died. No. audience says The judge just couldnt admit evidence obtained in that manner, Lancaster thought. 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Many people who came in contact with this pre-teen singer found it hard to believe that such a big voice could come out of someone so small. I had gone out with maybe one or two girls, Stout admitted. June 11, 1977. The same lady. They decided to wait a few hours before doing another test. The physical evidence was uneventful. Lucinda had later sketched in the details of the crime. He had the bravery to pick her up and hold her and be with her so she wasnt just there by herself, Rudee said. No, I didnt. This isnt fair. Since Lucinda is on parole for a previous offense, Detective Harding wants to make sure that she abides by the law and keeps her appointments with her probation counselor. Or a year. The book is so much better. She is one sick human being. Shes studying to be a cosmetologist. There also was her sister played by Nancy Cartwright who does the voice for Bart Simpson on the show, "The Simpsons." Rudee got the call and rushed to the hospital as she tried to get a hold of Spencers family out of state. David said he was disappointed in his brother because he thought he and his family were a lot tighter. No arrests have been made inher murder, which is now a cold case. We met him at his house. Directly after arrest. My husband said he got a call, and they said something happened and they think its Lucas, she said. Jerome Strange said his wife,Lucinda Strange, told him she was going for a walk on the day she was murdered March 25, 1990. Spencer can frustrate with its idiosyncratic depiction of its subject's life, but Kristen Stewart's finely modulated performance anchors the film's flights of fancy. His soaring spirit leaves a trail of lasting memories.. Shes as severe as you find, Grigson said. By what name was Vows of Deception (1996) officially released in Canada in English? Lile picked up Spencer and talked to her and tried to comfort her as she lost consciousness during the wait for paramedics. He is originally from Hawaii and enjoys the beach, camping, golf, beer and writing third-person bios about himself that exaggerate how outdoorsy he is. Previously he had worked at the Quadrant Health Club as a barber, had owned part of a topless bar on Greenville, and had run a barber shop at the Fairmont Hotel. Proving a previous pattern of lawlessness might be harder, since Luanda Stout had no record of criminal or violent behavior; but the seriousness of the offense matricide would probably compensate for that deficiency. Yes. Sir, my mother, I assumed, was dead because she wasnt breathing. If so, doesnt the very notion of certification amount to a Catch 22? The testimony of psychiatric experts is receiving increased judicial scrutiny because of its unreliable and invalid nature. 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Can a simple hour-and-half exam provide the basis for categorizing an individual as a sociopath? Youre not going to be satisfied till you can put this on your dad, are you? Yes, he did. No, sir, I didnt. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. I did, however, think it was worth watching. The basics. I was very grateful to be with her, Rudee said. And so Lile helped Spencer move her things, and the two quickly bonded. This film begins with a pregnant woman by the name of "Lucinda Michaels" (Cheryl Ladd) arriving by bus to the small town of Amherst and being greeted by law enforcement official by the name of "Detective Matt Harding" (Nick Mancuso). Lancaster scanned the jury as Lucinda stepped down. But Burnham still felt he had to get tough with Lucinda Stout. I had to drag her in the back yard. Lancaster got investigating officers to admit that there was no evidence of blood in the back yard or on the back porch. 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