Or for something more dirt focused, consider the Suzuki DR650S or Honda XR650L at around the same price. Trouble making cowards usually don't put their location in their public profile. So what matters is how it feels in the parts for which you buy it off-road. Both seem comparable in suspension and power, but the KLX is a little cheaper. Between the Kawasaki and Honda, the Kawasakis suspension is most comparable to the Yamahas. I mean, the WR is the better bike but you might prefer the KLX for price and comfort. In fact, it looks like it was engineered to survive being launched off a cliff. But now the 230 is indeed a dual sport -- alongside the 250. Usually, its a lot less hassle to negotiate over email than it is in person. Were looking forward to spending more time on the KLX300, exploring some of our local trails and backroads to learn more about its capabilities. I think this bike will be a winner for Kawi. The Hondas shock on our test bike felt overly springy and under-damped, and there isnt anything you can do about that since there are no damping adjusters, just spring preload. If I wanted a race bike Id buy a race bike. That usually means it can take some abuse though. Hey Gene. And no, the Honda CRF450L doesn't count. Stainless valves last longer, as far as I know. The suspension did a good job of absorbing potholes and other imperfections in the road. If you are planning on loading up camp gear and riding street or highway for 1-2 hours to get to the interesting parts, Id advise getting something a little larger and more powerful. I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply. Well report back with more details on what we find out! But, hey, every ounce counts, in our opinion. 43mm USD, cartridge, telescopic fork, compression adj. The CRF250L got its first revamp last year. And they are still too small for serious adventure rides. recall probs? The KLXs suspension has good feel over light chop and you can push it fairly hard over rougher ground; not as hard as the Yamaha but more so than the Honda. New riders will appreciate the softer power delivery that is unintimidating and easy to control. Although the suspension can get overwhelmed as speeds increase and it starts to fight with you a bit as the suspension tries to catch up with what you are doing. Don't buy a WR250R. Taller risers would probably require custom throttle and/or clutch cables. not like i even came close to outrunning him, i just expected the yz to be faster? Start modding the WRr and you are right there in $ but the WRr will drop in value faster & deeper, the mod $ you rarely see in resale. Its now $5,149. Braking performance on the trail was pretty good too. The KLXs suspension is almost as adjustable as the WRs. The Yamaha is noticeably more powerful than both the Kawasaki and Honda, but most of that power is lurking in the higher rpm range, a fun place for an experienced rider but maybe not so much for the true beginner. While the KLX300 doesnt have much in the way of aerodynamics, with a high-speed tuck behind the dash I was able to achieve an indicated 85 mph on a slight downhill. 2021 KLX300, WR250R & DRZ400 Comparison Ride | New School vs. Old School Dual Sports JH Motor Club 4.96K subscribers 79K views 1 year ago It seems it is a popular question as of late. Even so, it does take a little planning and a good check in the rear view before attempting a pass. Seriously though, the bikes are really evenly matched. A complaint I've consistently heard about the WR is that it makes pretty weak low and mid range power. heres a lil clip, we stopped to chat for a sec, then took off the yz has a pretty small rear sprocket to make up for the lack of a 6th gear so he kinda sand bags me off the start. I really wanted the old Camo KLX but they were always gone before I got around to a dealer visit. Dirt Bikes. 6 speed. Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Bama67, Jun 18, 2019. does the wr engine make more hp than a yz? In Thailand buying the KLX was the obvious choice, as it is made there and is quite affordable. Nice write-up. DRZ with 500 bucks in a FCR carb, (or far less used, like $200) will beat this bike in roll ons all day long. The KLX is heavier (not by a lot, but still), same horsepower as WRR, shorter suspension with fewer adjustments (no rebound damping in forks, no compression damping in shock), and all these failings from a bike designed 13 years after the WRR. I had handlebar risers (I think 30 mm ~= 1 1/4) installed which helped. Yet it was a little touchy on soft terrain. Also, forbase on the non adjustable suspension, I did not want the honda. May come down to availability and cost Hard to find bikes lately and when you do they want a small fortune for them! What the KLX300 lacks in adrenaline-pumping performance, it makes up for in balance. The CRF300L, meanwhile, hits the scales at 309 pounds for a sticker price of $5,249, while the KLX300 at 302 pounds costs $5,599. The 2020 Kawasaki KX 250 has an MSRP of $7,799, while the 2020 Kawasaki KLX 300R has an MSRP of $5,499. That drove us nuts with the previous KLX. The WRR with an exhaust, airbox mods, and a FI tuner is in the 28-29hp range, so I don't think you'll be missing anything except the kick-starter. Are you the guy with the KLR?!? I'd love to keep my Street Triple, but I've only got room in my garage and in my life for one motorcycle until I'm finished with school. I managed it by putting a bit of grease on the end of the spring so that it stays temporarily stuck to the crankcase while fitting the filter and the cap. Heres where color or your favorite dealership might be your deciding factor. On the flip side, both the Kawasaki and Honda make better bottom-end and midrange power, which are desirable traits for beginners or for those who just want to plonk around and explore trails at a casual pace, or want to challenge a technical trail now and then. Compare All Motorcycles. With its short wheelbase, the KLX felt nimble and flickable in tight bends. However, I never experienced any hard bottoming of the suspension, even launching it off jumps with flat bottom landings. 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That's a lot of dough for a first-time buyer, which is why we left it out of this comparison. We use cookies and browser activity to improve your experience and personalize both the content and advertising you see. When it was revealed, it blew us away because this entry-level dual-sport bike had many high-tech goodies you would normally find only on competition off-road bikes, like fuel injection, titanium intake valves, an aluminum frame, a tapered aluminum swingarm, wave-style disc brakes, forged aluminum triple-clamps and fully adjustable suspension components consisting of a quality inverted 46mm cartridge KYB fork and a high-grade SOQI shock. Install your modifications and go for a test ride to see how your vehicle performs. By It wasnt until 2013 that Honda responded with its first fuel-injected 250cc dual sport, the CRF250L, and now that Kawasaki has joined the FI ranks with its 2018 KLX250 (the S designation disappeared along with the carburetor), its time to revisit these machines once again. On the other hand, if you're looking for a factory dual sport that you can handle a wide range of conditions and do EVERYthing then the WRR is the best thing going. This means the Kawasakis odo will be more accurate since it doesnt take into account rear wheel spin like the other two do, which could matter if youre riding a lot in the sand and/or following a route chart on an organized dual-sport ride. Dash lights provide warnings for the engine, fuel level, coolant temp, high beam, neutral, and turn indicators. Any thought on the 310? Yamaha WR250R Discontinued! Another thing it has going for it is an oil change/valve check interval of 7,500 miles. Its quiet, stable, and keeps vibes to a minimum. He's got some insane woods bikes plated in NC, including a 2-stroke. Sitting on the bike for the first time, it feels similar to a full-sized motorcycle if not a tad small for my 6-foot 2-inch frame. The current KLX250S is and this has a much needed engine bump. If it was a 400 Id bring my checkbook.. It is nearly impossible to plate in NC. Good luck, can't go wrong with any of the ones mentioned in the thread. Thanks for the review. As before, the engine is a water-cooled single, featuring dual overhead cams with four valves and a 34mm throttle body EFI system mated to a 6-speed gearbox. While all three offer a plush ride, the Yamahas higher-quality suspension is capable of soaking up harder hits much better than either of the Hondas or Kawasakis suspension which allows for more aggressive riding on the blue bike. I like my 250 but it needs more poke. But what it really needed was FI. This is progress? Unfortunately, there was a price to pay for all these thingsthe price. My last bike, a Honda XR250, had M8 bolts there. For the majority of riders the controller is a complete Plug N Play unit. What are your thoughts? I am 63 260lbs so the size is a concern. It felt really top heavy compared to the crf300l I have now. I've owned a drz. I'd go with the klx300 over the WR. Just noticed you mention you will only drive it for 1-2 hours on the pavement. Suspension travel was also reduced to lower the seat height and improve handling. Hopefully, the aftermarket companies will respond with more options. All KLX300s are manufactured in Kawasakis Thailand facility. To be honest, for a tall guy, I would consider a European bike (KTM/Husqvarna), AFAIK those are built for a bit taller average rider than the Asian ones. Your thoughts? I know I'd like to make a light adventure bike out of it, and I'm wondering if I'd feel disappointed with the characteristics of the WR's power delivery. Though it does have the power of a moped with a 6 speed. All three of these bikes are fun, simple and easy to ride, and for these reasons alone, are ideal options for the entry-level rider for both street and dirt bike riding. Thanks for the kind words Edward. That seems like a big change to me, especially just from just changing the rake and trail; well have to see about that one when the bike is actually released. Kawasaki hasnt released performance figures, sharing only a dyno chart graphic without numbers, that shows both horsepower and torque increases across the entire RPM range. Kawasaki what the hell are you doing? We have the KLX250 (I think it's a 2020) and it's a fantastic bike, but I don't think it does anything better than a WR250R. We compare the latest entry-level 250cc dual-sport bikes from Japan. It caught our interest at the time because it was an all-new motorcycle filling a gaping hole in Hondas dual-sport line of entry-level dirt bikes, it had fuel injection and was dressed up to look a lot like its CRF-R MX brothers. I am 63 as well and the KLX was more or less ok, but not perfect. Maybe you should pack less crap? The motor is the 292cc, EFI unit taken straight from the KLX300R. Incredible vistas, unique Im supposed to be writing an adventure story and bike review, but all I can Take a peek in your typical adventure rider garage and youre likely to see a Harley-Davidson Kicks Off Nationwide Demo Tour for Pan America, REVIT! It doesnt feel undersized like a Yamaha XT250 or a Kawasaki KLX230. For those who like to ride hard off-road, the KLX300 has some limitations in aggressive terrain but its capable of getting through most gnarly sections. Stopping power is provided by a 250mm front disc with a 2-piston Nissin caliper, along with a 240mm disc and single-piston caliper in the rear. As far as the braking performance, the feel from the twin-piston front caliper was good with not a lot of abrupt bite. Had to have local guys weld new nuts to the frame to fix it. Passing slow moving trucks felt like slow motion compared to the big ADV Bikes, but I never felt like I was struggling or hesitant to pass. 55k is a great effort, that motor is just so reliable. Prepping it for some longer journeys wouldnt take much either. Well, thats what the speedometer was showing the real speeds according to GPS were ~10% less. But for taller riders, of course, that might not be an issue. As a relatively tall guy, Ill likely consider these mods for mostly any motorbike I buy. Of the three engines, the Hondas and Kawasakis are most comparable. A dual sport is not a racing bike and anyone who thinks it is will be disappointed. It feels pretty planted for a dirt bike and there was enough firmness in the suspension that you didnt feel excessive dive and squat. You also notice a lack of power when trying to get the motor spun up for big jumps, and the suspension feels too soft for aggressive riding. The 2018 Yamaha WR250R returns much like it was 10 years ago but with an inflated price tag of $6699. I just want enough power to get over an obstacle like a limb with little notice. Jumping up from the 250cc to 300cc range is one change that can make a significant difference, especially when it comes to dual sport riding that entails getting on the highway to reach the trails. they just walk away. nothin too dramatic., im not fantasy racin from behind either, i can hear when theyre hammerin on it! Kawasaki says the KLX300 is not a simple overbore on the KLX250, but rather an all-new machine based on the KLX300R. On flat turns, it has good feel but the front end wants to tuck if you push the pace. The KLX300 chassis uses a steel-perimeter frame and an aluminum swingarm. Now that Im in EU, Im much more likely to buy a KTM or a Husqvarna. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. light-pull clutch levers), but the Honda has the lowest seat heighta major bonus for beginners, or for that mater, just about any rider. on a KLR tell me how he was all over me on a street ride. For those riders who dont have a vehicle that can carry a bike, the KLX300 is about as smooth of a small single as you can get for short stints on the highway enroute to the trails. The KLX300 chassis uses a steel-perimeter frame and an aluminum swingarm. The KLX300 features a 292cc water-cooled engine with optimized ignition timing, updated suspension damping and more. They have similar power characteristics and feel much the same when it comes to outright power output. However, the WR250R does merit a mention. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you haven't. The smart money would probably grab the Kawi and not look back. And boy is it underwhelming. These things are are as unobtainium as 9mm ammo in the Pac Norwest USA. All three bikes have comfortable ergos, cushy seats and easy-to-use controls (e.g. Ive also raced an enduro on the KLX without issue. Hes asking $7,000 for standard and $7,300 for the Camo.i need to shop elsewhere as this is at the top of my list.Ive ridden bikes for 40 years and now just want something easy to handle and maintain. The engine run/stop switch was almost the last thing I checked, would not have thought it can crap out. Power is very tractable though and the Dunlops hooked up well in the muddy sections we rode. Sucks at the drag races. KLX 300R Ultimate Trail Bike For Off-Road Thrills 2022 KLX 300R SPECS GALLERY ACCESSORIES & MERCHANDISE OFFERS COMPARE LOCATE A DEALER MSRP $5,699 $400 SAVINGS Destination Charge $435 Freight and Materials Surcharge $300 Dealer sets the actual destination charge, your price may vary. The Camo version goes for an additional $200. In comparison, the KLX250Sthe Yamaha's number-one competitor at the timesold for about a $1000 less. YAMAHA XT225, V 225 01-MAR. The steering head angle is a dirt-friendly 26.7 and it rides on a 21 front and 18 rear spoke wheels shod with Dunlop D605 dual sport knobbies. Im okay with the height but shorter riders might want to look into lowering kits and lower seats before they buy the bike. This bike had a lot going for it. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Presumably this will be because of the new, stricter Euro 5 laws. Honda also started offering ABS as an option with the 17 model. Do you think Kawasaki should have done more or is it just me? (now 302lbs), even with the new exhaust. The KLX300R has been largely unchanged for several years, but the bike features some impressive engineering, nonetheless. Just because the Yamaha is considered an entry-level bike doesnt mean that the WR doesnt have the potential to tackle some pretty rough and challenging terrain, because it certainly does, and the fun factor goes up a notch or two as long as youre not in a big hurry to get where you are going. By shaving 0.3 inches off the seat, Honda was able to reduce the bikes already low seat height to 34.4 inches. with the basic mods its about 30. i never said a wr was faster than the bigger bikes, i just said it does better against them than expected i would think a yz450f would leave me with ease, it pulls away, but nothing too impressive. And whats not to love about that? With the bump to 292cc, the klx seems like it has the better motor now. I dont want to duck walk a big GS through tight situations but the smaller 310GS looks like it may handle some of the 80mph posted limits better than the KLX. Does the. Its sweet spot is slow to mid-range speeds on rough terrain. 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