***Just say no..Now what happens if a client developes a health issue later in life. Some are guaranteed so he can keep it. ALSO: - I know it was no insurance company. Third, did you know that the clients of Primerica get a debt stacking program free? Diversification is sought to increase profitability through greater sales volume. Remember you do whats right 100% of the time. James you are wrong here again. The use of spell check and instead of using the philosophy buy term and invest the difference maybe try buy term and invest the difference only when it makes sense. And then again you need to pay for the 30 years. You must not know anything about the insurance business. James @ 1:59 am Someone stated that PFS do not have to carry E & O insurance? You will not have the exclusive right to sell these products and services in any territory. They add products when it is good for the client and for the company. Back in the 1960s, guess what? Indexed Annuities are ok they are better than a fixed one but still limited. But your policies lack value. He said, he loves that PFS sells 20,000 policies per month, because theyre all prospecting for him! A person can get a commission contract the same or better outside of PFS. -. May be you feel you need the added intials behind your name, but Primerica does not need that, they are backed by the Best Company, and the only company that just sells term. 4. Do you offer products to clients that do not need them? Compare quotes from participating carriers via Policygenius.com. Since the policies you push have to have the convertibility, and Primericas does not they have better value. And you do not get any legs. It is like a pyramid scheme, except that it is different. Where is the guaranteed insurability? Who is attacking who. You say buy ROP for the savings. (Hence adviser.) Then you will get refferals and you will be **Tom exactly where else would they get the rates from? Just as the PFS agents are talking about replacement of Cash value products, the same thing can be said for their Term product. Second since it is risk that is in the market, the only way to not have this risk is to be not in the market. Tomorrow I think I will sell some good term policies. The freedom to choose my carriers with out a fear of having my contact cancelled. Since he has not clarified this He must be keeping with his first statement. you can get it cheaper Theres always a cheaper price for anything. I went home and told my parents (negative from the frist mention of Primerica) But Im a question asker and I demand actual evidence to back up claims that people make Im like a lawyer as far as needing info goes-thats why at 6 after an IQ test I was told I should be a lawyerlol- and nothing that they said made sense or had any merit. Since I do not need to troll for customers, I do not have to lower myself to your level. -. That is what they teach in those classes. 2) The agent only gets paid on, and credit for, $1,500 of annual-premium on the TOTAL combined policy, not each one. I offer choices to my clients. No one makes anyone work at primerica! IS he a smart man, YES. -. _____________________________________________, What if a client has a spouse and disability coverage isnt a consideration, can they offer critical illiness, or can a PFS agent even suggest it? I was also contacted by an old boss of mine from years ago with the same approach I wanted to talk to you about something and never specified. You talk about ROP, Term, and cash valve policies. OK I would ask you to run a quote for me but since you are not an agent you are a CLIENT, you cannot compare with me apples for apples against my products. I am curious do you use your given name or are you hiding behind a different name? All in all your position severly lacks many areas. If you follow the example in the book The Coach they will first lower commissions, and cut back in advances. 1.Life Health and Disability License Its good to see the VPs of the company excited about their job and company. Since I have had friends that have been taken by the Crooks like you, sold false promises and had nothing at the end, yes I get confrontational. YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR BUSINESS!!!!! Will you all watch The Pursuit of Happyness please? I found out many people dont carry a mortgage for a full 30 years. We can all do it and if I can save the client $30 a month on life insurance costs then that is an extra $30 I can put away for their retirement. Remember you are selling insurance as a way to save money, or to have an instant estate. These include, communicating in a polite and respectful manner, asking meaningful questions, imparting factual information and abiding by norms and values. Something you keep forgetting is you give up one leg. So that the junior will be making money sooner. I mean most middle American families are not planning on living on that 300 a month they are putting away in an IRA. You have to write a new policy on the spouse, and then delete the spouse-rider from the original. And as a client I want someone to watch the store, to be full-time. Life insurance prices may vary based on benefits and construction of the product. Mistake number one, trying to say someone wants a guarantee, when you know that the odds are they will change or cancel the policy. 1. ROP is a way to pay more so if by chance you keep paying for the length of the term, you will get the premiums back. Bugt if you have a tool why would you not use it? How To Find The Cheapest Travel Insurance, Types of Life Insurance Sold by Primerica, convert a term life to a permanent life insurance policy. ***Read the article again, he mentions that a client can get a partial refund if the let the policy lapse. I hjve seen it scheduled to happen in 7 years. And people are willing to pay for it. Another reason why thats an ignorant comment is because thats like saying I dont want to get my drivers license because then I have to follow the rules now or submit to the government. Which one do you want to have? The only problem is that those options are only good for the agents not the clients. This way we can see whose opinion counts in the end. That is I do not get any other service, like what about your other funds, because he knows about my investing. Michael is wrong about the 199 and 99 dollars and waht it covers. Finger Printing Your just building for someone else. Now, Im border line ranting ,so Ill wrap this up. Example a room at the Waldorf is more than the Econolodge down the street. Since those with lower credit scores are known to use their insurance when they have accidents, we will charge them more. So regarding the comments I made about most money being made from recruiting people I was told by other reps that I wouldnt make any decent money if I didnt recruit people. Mr Thomas: please dont inform the PFS people about the renewals they may be missing out on with a disability or Long Term Care Sale. You get what? But your companies are owned by Cash Value Companies, and that is why they are cheaper. They talk about business theory and the law. . I am not selling myself here either. But Since it works with him, I think it will work for me. Hello again. I mean My 2 year old nephew does that. My apologees Lynn, I was trying to give you credit and kudos for the well-put and succinct response to Annette. And this is because you need to handle all the compliance issues. We provide the vehicle for you to get to a better financial place by mapping out where you are and how to get to where you want to be based on YOUR specific case. Since this is a legal definition. Primerica, Inc. (NYSE: PRI) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript February 24, 2023. As far as the license go people do own their license. They would neglect their families precious time (even kids) to attend late night meetings ( up to midnight), and weekends. But you can be asked to leave for many reasons.Securities is one reason. Which would you choose is you were a client? I plan to work as a nurse part time (have accepted an offer already) and plan to work with primerica part time as well. How Much Is A $500,000 Life Insurance Policy? Primerica does allow you to renew it with out a medical exam. Primerica Review - Compensation Plan & Pay Structure Details You can make more at other places besides primerica Maybe that is true when you talk about starting out in one aspect of the business. Since you do not know this makes me suspect that you have not investigated the companies your sell. And since you do not have a team that helps you with over-rides, you need to think of yourself first, and client second. Standard Insurance _________________________________________________. Sounds like a sales tool to me. That is one of the key things. Being Cheaper does not make it equal. The truth is coming out about you. I found a blog of a Primerica rep if anyone is interested. I can be the person they go to for money or help instead of being stuck in a rut. Since you do not know me, Why are you being condescending? Thanks for the laughs and by all means, please post again. But then again the only people who say to use Insurance to save money is Insurance Sales People. Get lower pay, and work harder. We got our first $5 million earner last year and are looking to unveil several more by next Convention 2009. RECRUITING JUSTIFICATION: well lets see.. get the blind teaching the blind and say who am i to judge who will make it or not and yes then you can put your head on the pillow at night.. well, thats if you have no real judgement and are more motivated by what, oh ya, the dream of money and success; ah so hypicritical. They give a game plan, and you do not need to buy it. Who are you to assume everyone is dissatified. So it protects them and the company from unscrupulous agents that hide behind initials and alias, so they can attack the company. Not ones that come from insuracne companies giving slanted definitions, giving in correct facts along with not giving the truth. Since most of the companies that were in business in 1977 are out of business now, and since AIG is having money difficulties, what will happen to my policy if the company becomes defaulted? Doing this, all you are doing is taking cheap shots and not being accountable for your own actions. i have a mutual fund through my job and it gives me great returns. People seem to think Citigroup bought PFS for some reason other than distribution. Second, Since I am not an agent, but a client that has been approached several times, I do not have the access need to get the answers. Today someone can be making 900K in Primerica, but if they lose a good producer things can change over night. I am sorry, what do you consider poor? I knwo I rather stay in a hotel that has a high standard than the cheapest one. I am curious home many parttimers want to work hard for $3000 and are barely breaking even. @SM Wheres the value? And who it is good for. The more you post the more they will learn..Everyday they will look in the mirror and it will be there. Everyone can see that Tom is like that snake oil salesperson and provides us with a very nice dog and pony show. Unless you select option B then you are paying extra for that benefit. the main problem with this company lies in agents. Again, is this unique to Primerica? Now are there companies out there that now sell only term yes. Would you like to set predators like that onto your family? If by some chance you feel PFS is a stepping stone, do what you feel is best for you. hence your last desparation to grab this opportunity that youll soon find has a very poor pay out. -. 4.) Why sould a woman pay the same price as a man? wow. Tom says: B Oh the ability to sell cheap term. Because I do not sell just one product or nor am I captive to one company. Okay fair is fair not every company is right for everyone. Primerica offers term life insurance products. Do you know anyone in America that would turn down making and extra 1000 to 3000 dollars a month working 40 hours a month? The only problem is you are playing magician. By the way, doing so, automatically promotes you to district, meaning doubles your compensation level from the beginning and gets you a Palm (as reimbursement for the $99- which actually costs $200 plus out of the RVPs pocket-who may not necessarily be your field trainer..but who cares-you are now porperly trained and licensed to start business). Im not sure if you know it but companies have reduced their rates in the past 5 years. Do some research. even if you must buy flyers and whatnot, your overhead will be significantly less then trying to start up any other business. Did you know that most people in the business world consider that a theft? They pay no office space, nor any salaries to the sales staff, just commission. Someone who is in no need of making money off you, can be an adviser. They are looking for people wanting to win. Primericas term I would love to see how Citi said it in its papers. From Primerica Financial Services Home Mortgages, Inc. Originator Agreement. They got caught stealing and lying and cheating their clients. So this means that the insurance company gets to keep the extra money. If you follow the FNA you will have money and not need insurance. You only have one company to work with Citigroup why not allow you to use any company you want . This is ten times the amount and only two of the licenses. I can name them but that would be a history lesson and I rather not waste my time educating you any more than I have to. And the bad ones dont like clauses and guidelines because they dont like to be regulated by a mother company that wants to protect the clients and the Representatives. and if you are serving Middle American Families it is not good for them too. You may think it is not important, but then again you must not think that getting all your points corrdct is important. People that leave Primerica may get a contract that looks higher, but they are still not getting a Business Opportunity that they can offer the same to others which ultimately gives us the higher contract. Anyone who has a problem with peopel being happy about thir lives is cynical and/or jealous and not worth the rebuttal. There is an application for this product. And since they have no value term one can only guess why they need a new product. The price thing. Does not sell cash value. Now again how did that go, price only matters in the absence of value. District Leader. That isnt half of you on this page. People are living longer and expected to have longer life spans. They are looking for a get rich quick scheme promised to them by our so-called competitors that are mad because they got some of their clients taken away by us. Thats corporate America(by the way, this is a very well respected company). But he was a great leader. The Financial Needs Analysis is not a financial plan. It is called leading by example. And definitely because we are in a League of our own. Now, any adviser that says term is temporary is planning on selling them Cash value. Remember how they let their other businesses call them, so they may not make as much but they make more on the name in a list. In California, without PFS, it is $450. This grace in our lives is due to someone not looking at the most well-to-do families but targeting the solidly middle class. But then someone that is having discussions usually will go wait let me look it up. This mean the clients you bring in cant be touch for two years after you leave. Does it make it ethical to sell it to people? Even small newspapers have a web presence. IO looked into Primeamerica a few years ago, and what Becky reported about them having mutual funds with comparitively low returns was true then too. ***You have no idea what markets we or anyone else currently target. Oh man back to the ROP issue Read Sandy Weills book Tearing Down The Walls. some companies do price and underwrite differently. It is fair. If an PFS agent is really at PFS to help people i strongly suggest you dont read message boards, because sooner or later your going to hear things and see things at trainings and you wont be able to look in the mirror. I have people I listen to. You said 99% of the time you sell good policies. Forbes 50 most trustworthy companies in 2015, half a million dollars for the American Cancer Society, Promote 1 new SR, generate $2500 in premiums, Promote 1 new DL, generate $5000 in premiums, Promote 2 new DLs, generate $7500 in premiums, Promote 6+ DLs, $20,000 in premiums, get securities license. , Its has better ratings (AM Best, Moody, S&P): They will be eventually closed since they do the same practises. Do you work for a Contractor in the Business of Ac Repair? They understand the difference between cheap and quality. Fourth, It does not always lead to a loan. If I want to start selling to A.C Mechanics or any certain group, I get someone that speaks their language. Lloyds of London Lets talk about Primericas policies that you say they have value. James did a very good job refuting toms silly claims. You just didnt have what it takes to earn that kind of money in Primerica. Having some one else pay for the E and O for a starting business is great. They then take this $500 and show them how to make good use of it by investing in mutual funds for retirement, saving for college, etc. That knocks off 90 to 95% of the companies out there. You should really see the real world. That is what you advocate. Cant help but respond either! I had to send her to Zurich at the time. I know it is pride, but the truth be told all your posts are suspect, and anyone that takes your word is asking fro trouble. It is something to think about. ______________________________. That is when they know they are going to lose money on a product, sell it at LOSS, so they can get money somewhere else. Have to wait up to 6 months to get money. However, I can share my short-lived Primerica experience with you. Hee-Haw! That is just as important as a College education. think you need to check your stats chum! -. Today, almost 30 million people are in I have 2 million dollars in liquid assets, not properties and some money. How many (average) americans have $25k to invest or can afford to pay you/reputable companies 1500.00-2,500.00 or more for your services. . Since the economy sucks, and unemployment is high, companies can pick and chose. Most sales people have forgotten whose interests should be looked after first. You actually think insurance companies are looking out for the benefit of the policy holder. And my friends have no regard on the negative effect they have on their failies. I have no problem with the link you posted. Homeowners/Rental Insurance will not protect you when you car is totaled in an accident. When the check was cut they called up and ask to see if they could help us out. . Outside PFS to earn the big incomes you can have a choice of personal production or by building a team depending on the company you align yourself with. And if you die in between your family gets all the money, insurance and investments. A.L. One day it will become clear. If you cant hit 100K easily in southern California bad news. If a client is looking for 100K worth of coverage and wanted to have a savings program also wouldnt it be in their best interest to get the lowest cost product possible to have more money to work with? When it comes to value, I rather not have some person who is looking for a sale to contradict the competent advisers that have no interests in making a commission off me. I am sure there are bunch more pros and cons, but honestly, since I never signed up I dont know all of the details. These policies provide a level premium for a specified period. The only people who call it temporary is those trying to up sell the client into cash value. If a company has the option to increase premiums they will if they have to. Your posts remind me of the competition for my friends business. Remember the Movie Coming to America Eddie Murphy. Well keep doing a great job pulling in that first paycheck thats your life and health reembersement and make sure you keep outfitting yourselves as unprofessional as possible when you show up in t-shirt and jeans to your little pep talks. I am so glad you make money. This shows you ways to get out of debt without refinancing your home. However I dont have plans on leaving because I know where I stand with my present employer and because there are perks that my present company give me that the other wouldnt. But let us think for a minute. I work at a restaurant right now, and the money is good, while going to school. Then you are saying that it is ok to charge a fee for this? Primerica business overview seminar is FREE. The licensed agent can still offer products, build a team if they so choose and then have a product that can be offered to the people who have licensing concerns. You can be Rolled Back which means lose the promotions that you have received and the commission levels at your RVPs discretion . BY FAR DO NOT QUIT WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU ARE THE BEST. Male: I know how hard it is to retrain someone. Its a little like PMI insurance on mortgages. To make this comparision is showing how desperate you are. Or how about the agent that placed a piece of paper on top of the policy saying you can never cancel this policy. Never a full-time requirement. I think they called that personal responsibility. I guess you do not tell them that do you? Its easy to not understand who we are and what we do if time has been taken to obtain legitimate information. But would you feel safe if your Brakes on the car only worked some of the time? A person may not be into the sales part, well then theres the business side that may look better. The RVP contract is about Primerica procedures. So if you manage to sign someone up for a $10,000 debt consolidation loan, youll make $31. Again, You are wrong, but I am seeing from the outside looking in. WTH? I also looked within the company and could see how even the legitimate claims of failure were simply that. But then again The IRS says it is. Even custom made suits are not perfect. It is AIG. I seen it called no-value term, by some agents. If someone can justify the 40% limit because the company is looking out for the client, thats the case some make for Whole life. When I first was being recruited by Primerica, I was led to believe that I was an owner of my own business. . Let me show you in the next couple of lines. Im sure you understand how the cash value of a policy is used within a policy and who owns it. What is wrong with an individual policy Husband and wife having seperate polies makes sense. If they do it again, I will buy that stock. 2. It is probably one of the reasons he left Primerica and has he own office. And if the company goes default, then I lose my insurance. It is not the clients you see, nor are they Michaels/Thomas clients. I have trained more salespeople than Michael and you together. Well let me let you know that Primerica people are totally aware that we will not get everybody to follow our crusade and opportunity, but then again were not looking for everybody. Since it only covers Life insurance, that is understandable. Please just go away, Unless you love the fact you are being proved wrong.Unless you are going to post companies that will give you your money back on ROP if you cancel early. You have been tooting this Ed Slot Character alot. We had quitters on my football team too, HS and College but its how the story goes. Which brings up another question. You are an individual, where a government entity says something who are you going to trust. So I did take it with a grain of salt. As a Primerica agent if your client showed you this what would you say? Why woudl you want to work for a company that plays favorites. I have given many reasons why not going with the companies you suggest. You are told you are a bussines owener. Matter of fact, it makes it worse, since you have no loyalty to any company. I do not work for Trane so I do not have to cater to Trane. When a RVP comes from your base shop you get to take a leg. And he has been able to use REAL facts and logic to explain his success as well as your shortcomings in PFS. Good luck to all and i hope it works out. Its like a saving plan, when you get older you can at the end of that term you simply invest it into an annuity, IRA or whatever. 6. Then theres compensation and then theres marketing. these mean the price goes up yearly. Im not sure where all this energy comes from to spend time writing blogs trying to discourage people from primerica. Well then the 18yr old just gives everyone he knows away the senior guys are happy and the junior guy thinks thats great, but then the will runs dry.. uh oh.. now its time for real business and talking to people we dont know.. ummm how about we just get another idiot to be convienced to join and well exploit his warm market.. and round and round this vicious cycle we profit the 18yr old tries to coach, but cant why.. hes not licensed or at that level.. hey they never told me that so yep.. that regional or rvp gets all that business and u thought u owned a business uh no but ur are a 1099 employee.. wait.. dont u criticise them too.. umm ya u do.. wow.. so many flaws in this model.. so there lies the reason to recruit.. it continually opens up that persons warm market and u move on.. u sleep at night because you say, who am i do judge someones potential well wake up people.. you are judged every single day by your potential and rightly so.. are you going to tell me your fund managers dont judge funds potential based off history and past performance or do you want there money invested in a company where they say.. hmmm hey lets give them a chance no.. just doesnt work that way. Just remember, NBIP (nothing personal in business). Ira you say I dont think that the long term potential verses the up front committments can be matched anywhere.. Michael/Thomas may say that price really matters. They sell to sell another product to the same client. Term is what it is a temporary policy. It would lead to calls from idiots like you trying to get me to change my plan. The Poor need it, but most of the clients that they seen have it. Its a choice. If you dont like what you hear, then move on to something elseits your prerogative, right? So i get a stupid 18yr old and sell him/her the world. Now cable is not as important as your families life if you should die prematurely. You get to pay for you licenses? (Disability Insurance), Tom says: But as for the post here, They are here to drive a wedge between the company and agents. SM. . this will cause agents to either have to sell more to make the same amount of money, or leave for other companies. They cannot offer anything other than what they sell which means they often have to place clients in a box. The numbers speak volumes in Primericatoo many people have become wildly successful in PFS to dismiss its validity. Though I was trying to work the system as to avoid any bad stuff for my customers, as well as make me the most profits. Or would you take the work and see if you can get it cheaper? I am stuck in the middle about whether or not to pursue a career with primerica. No problem Adam. Some carriers offer 50% or a max of 250K and 1 year or shorter to live. Now with it, I can get a portion of my life insurance before I die if I need it ( and it is not a loan with interest penalties.). Should they be more cheaper. Yes PFS is a feel good company, but this is big business.. if nothing is sold no one gets paid. I believe in personal responsibility, and loyalty. Those are great statics, but smart people know that anyone can make statics say what ever you want them too. There have been only 2 times that I went back to a client and advised then that a portion of their solution didnt make sense to switch from their currect programs and it was left alone NOT SWITCHED ANYWAY TO MAKE A PROFIT. I am curious, You statisics are good, and any one else is meaningless? non-guaranteed level premium beyond 20 years? You do not need to be unhappy with corporate America. . The banks and finance companies are not doing this. Three and finally, you did not know the difference between a sales person and an adviser. . You keep saying that Life insurance is able to preserves estates, but there are less expensive and better ways to do that,. Since Value in a Primerica policy is pretty numerous in points, I will do only a couple: Well consider this. Keep posting Tom. By the way is this how a professional acts? Does the agent refer the client to another agent? . Stocks and bonds and other risky investments are not for Middle American families. 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